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Science vs Religion Part 9: Adam and the Fall

By: The Baron

[Part 9 in a multi-part series on Science & Religion from an LDS perspective.  Previous entries in the series: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6 | Part 7 | Part 8]

In the previous section, we looked at how evolution may be reconcilable with creationism in general.  Now let’s look at some specifics regarding the Biblical account of man’s creation: Adam, Eve and the Garden of Eden.

What’s the fundamental difference between humans and animals, from a gospel perspective?  It’s unclear whether animals, including pets, have the equivalent of ‘spirits’ that continue to exist after they die, but even if they do, it should be clear that there is a large difference between any such spirits and the spirits of man.

The spirits of man, according to the gospel, are literal spirit children of our Heavenly Father.  Those spirits were present in the premortal life, where we heard and accepted the plan of salvation.  The concepts of ‘sin’, ‘repentance’, as well as the power of Christ’s Atonement apply to human spirits and human spirits only—there is no evidence animals are capable of sin, nor have any need to repent, nor will be partakers of celestial glory in our Father’s kingdom.

The true gospel definition of “Man” (male and female) consists of one of those advanced spirit intelligences joined with a physical body.  This is significant because it is, in fact, the existence of that advanced spirit that defines Man, not the shape of the flesh it resides in.

What this idea implies, though, is that Adam being the “First Man” means, by definition, he is the first conjunction of one of Heavenly Father’s spirit children with a physical body on the Earth.  It does NOT necessarily mean that Adam was the first living organism with the physical form of homo sapiens.  Since “Man” is defined by the spirit inside, not the physical appearance of the body, we have an opening for the idea that Adam’s physical body may have had literal biological ‘parents’, but who do not count themselves as “Man” in the true sense because they were not tabernacles for God’s spirit children.  They would have been, essentially, nothing more than slightly advanced animals.  (Insert your own joke about things not having changed much...)

This idea potentially provides the answer to the philosophical question, “Did Adam and Eve have navels?”, and additionally provides a linking point to evolutionary processes, which may have taken simple life-forms through natural selection until the proper ‘human’ form was created, at which point God’s spirit children had an appropriate ‘home’ for mortal existence and the true history of Man could begin.

The primary obstacle in reconciling this idea with LDS philosophy is a simple one: the common “No Death Before the Fall” teaching—that before Eve and Adam partook of the forbidden fruit and were cast out of the garden, they could not die, and (more relevantly) neither could anything else.

The “NDBF” teaching has a multitude of examples from LDS leaders, past and present, who have used it as an (indirect) argument against evolution:  that evolution, naturally, could not have been the primary process responsible for earth life if death and rebirth (a fundamental requirement of natural selection over time) was not possible before the Fall.  (There’s even a church blog both named for and devoted to this teaching…)

Is this a fundamental incompatibility with the ‘creation through evolution’ idea?  Depends…   The key question with “No Death Before the Fall” becomes: starting from when?

Was there No Death from the beginning of the Earth’s creation until the Fall?  Or from the beginning of Adam’s creation (i.e. the entrance of his spirit into his physical body) until the Fall?  Or perhaps No Death only within the bounds of the Garden of Eden

This is an important question, as the latter two options create philosophical room for a period of time in Earth’s history where there was death (and thus an opening for evolutionary processes to take form) before the creation of Adam and the Garden. 

The best supported idea in NDBF is that Adam and Eve could not die before partaking of the fruit.  This fits within everything else we know both about the plan of salvation and Adam’s part in it, and is fairly non-controversial.

The less supported idea is that nothing else in the Garden of Eden could die before Adam Fell—there’s no direct evidence of this in scripture, and could perhaps be considered illogical if you presume that Adam and Eve would have had to eat living things in the Garden anyway.

The idea with even less direct support than that, however, is that outside of the Garden (and in the time before the Garden was created) nothing could die either.  This is the element that is most in conflict with a potential creationism/evolution reconciliation…and is the element that has the least direct evidence to begin with.

In fact, one could argue that Adam and Eve being cast out of the garden after the Fall (as they were now subject to death), suggests that death was a reality outside the garden all along—that the garden was a ‘symbol’ of heaven where the rules may have been different, but—in the same measure that the spirits of mankind tainted with sin cannot return to the Father’s presence--that post-Fall Adam and his family were no longer suitable to be in the garden, but were instead suited to be on the outside in the mortal world where death was already a reality.

With this idea, the “No Death Before the Fall” teaching can still be literally true…and not a true obstacle towards evolution having a part in creation, since we’ve created an upper bound in time and location where NDBF was actually in force.

The vast majority of NDBF teachings have similar characteristics—they are focused primarily on Adam and Eve not being subject by death before the Fall, and only imply indirectly (if at all) that other living things inside or outside of the Garden were immune from death at the same time...which is the part that needs to be true if it is to truly serve as an anti-evolution argument.

The most recent example of NDBF teaching comes from the March 2008 Ensign.  From Elder Packer:  "Adam and Eve ventured forth to multiply and replenish the earth as they had been commanded to do.  The creation of their bodies in the image of God, as a separate creation, was crucial to the plan.  Their subsequent Fall was essential if the condition of mortality was to exist and the plan to proceed."

The aforementioned NDBF blog concludes based on this that “If the condition of mortality could not exist without the Fall, then it clearly did not exist before the Fall.”  But that’s not directly implied in the statement itself…

The Fall was essential if the condition of mortality for Adam and Eve was to exist, certainly.  They needed to become subject to death in order for the plan to proceed.  But as with most NDBF statements there’s still nothing authoritative in this statement that suggests that every living thing other than Adam and Eve could not die before the Fall either, nor suggests any reason why that being true would have been vital to the plan of salvation in the first place.  In reality, having other living things (especially outside the Garden) subject to death changes nothing about Adam and Eve’s path into mortality, and the plan of salvation in general.

We should note again that this path of reconciliation is still based on speculation and personal opinion—ideas of how things could be, rather than based on hard evidence or specific scriptural inferences as to how things definitely are.

My interpretation of NDBF statements suggests that they are far less conclusive than others have interpreted them to be on the subject.  (Your mileage may vary...)   However, I believe there is still room in the Church, even with the creation account as given, and the NDBF doctrine as taught by many past leaders, for true evolutionary processes to have played a part in both Adam’s creation and life in general.  There just isn’t enough direct information about the condition of the Earth outside of Adam and Eve themselves to make conclusive arguments about what could die and what couldn’t.  As a result, I maintain 'creation by evolution' is still a valid theory in regards to reconciling science and religion.

Next: Joseph Smith and multi-dimensionality

Print | posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 1:20 PM | Filed Under [ The Baron General Theology Science ]

Comments:

#1: Eric Nielson

What about 2222 (2 Nephi 2:22). This is scriptural and at leasts suggests NDBF. I am not necessarily arguing for a strict NDBF interpretation.

Again, nicely done and well presented.
4/11/2008 3:11 PM

#2: green mormon architect

I agree with this post and have been thinking about this topic for some time now, so I wanted to share my two cents worth on this topic.

For me it is reasonable that life was going along for billions of years until one point when creatures had developed that looked like Him were on the earth, He came and planted a Garden with rivers and trees, and enclosed it to keep unwanted creatures out. He then put the first of His spirit children into two bodies, thus creating the first man and woman. And then He introduced the two of them into the Garden. For the first time, someone on earth had the ability to reason, but they were like children.

They were told to take care of the Garden, but somehow they let a snake come into the Garden. After some convincing, this was probably OK with them, since he would help keep away the other creatures attracted to all of the sweet and ripe fruit waiting to be eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Interestingly, because of the bitter fruit of the tree of life, none of the animals were attracted to it.

By eating the fruit, they became the first creatures on earth to break a law of God. This act brought death into the world – spiritual death. They were then sent out of His presence and into the world, which was not Garden-like. God killed two animals to make protective clothing for them and then they had to fend for their lives to survive.

No where in scripture do I recall it stating that our physical bodies are the actual offspring of God. It states that Christ was the only begotten of the Father in the flesh, meaning that Adam could not possibly be a physical child (offspring) of God. It appears that only our spirits are actual spirit children of God.
4/11/2008 3:19 PM

#3: Jeff G

"...it should be clear that there is a large difference between any such spirits and the spirits of man."

I don't think that this is clear at all. What, exactly, are these huge differences? While it may be easy to point to differences in one merely looks at a slice of biological time (say, the past 6,000 years), the whole point of Darwinian evolution is that there never is a point at which a species becomes a species. There is no speciation event, no line which can be drawn between non-human ancestors and their human offspring.

"...Adam’s physical body may have had literal biological ‘parents’, but who do not count themselves as “Man” ... They would have been, essentially, nothing more than slightly advanced animals."

And what makes you think that we are anything more than slightly advanced animals? I guess the main issue I'm having is that it is unclear what material difference you see between humans and non-human animals. What difference does having a spirit make? Do these differences really lend themselves to the all-or-nothing dichotomy which is being set up? What if the evidence suggests that all of these difference evolved gradually over time as well?

"In reality, having other living things (especially outside the Garden) subject to death changes nothing about Adam and Eve’s path into mortality, and the plan of salvation in general."

Perhaps it doesn't effect Adam and Eve's path, but if those other living things are just as much our ancestors as Adam and Eve are, then it sure as heck effects OUR plan of salvation doesn't it? Or are we really to believe that we all descend from Adam and Eve, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Assuming the answer to that question is 'no', what happens if somebody has one biological parent with a spirit and another without? Does this person have a spirit or not? Does such an account of mixing lend itself to "pure blood" talk? To some of us inherit more of Adam's fall than others? Indeed, why do we need to inherit any of these curses (mortality, sin) from Adam if we just as easily could have inherited it from our non-Adamic ancestors?

In short, this post seems to seriously short-change the science side of the debate, if not skip over it all together. The science suggests that there never was any single "one father for everybody" figure in our ancestry. Once we abandon this idea of Adam being a biologically unique parent of all, its hard to see what uniqueness remains to be salvaged this our genetic material will be overwhelmingly non-Adamic.
4/11/2008 4:53 PM

#4: R. Gary

Baron,

I'd be great if my blog was "a church blog," but it isn't. It's a private blog. It expresses private opinions. It makes no effort to express any official position or teaching of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, whose sponsorship or endorsement is neither sought nor implied.

Re: the March 2008 Ensign.

President Packer's words are plain, uncomplicated and unambiguous. His message and meaning are clear. I find it interesting to think about how difficult it would be to teach the doctrine of no death before the fall using words that could not be misinterpreted and, in reading your interpretation of President Packer's comment, I think that I myself would not be able to do it.

In addition, there are numerous other places in Boyd K. Packer's published writings where he teaches the doctrine of no death before the fall. So if your desire is to show that your beliefs about death before the fall are somehow compatible with President Packer's words, then you are doing just that, you are dissecting his words and ignoring his intended meaning.
4/11/2008 10:34 PM

#5: R. Gary

Jeff G,

It's true, commendably, that you haven't attributed any part of your comment to the Church or any of its apostles and prophets.

However, according to the 1931 First Presidency, there is one thing upon which all Church members should be able to agree, "namely, that Presidents Joseph F. Smith, John R. Winder, and Anthon H. Lund were right when they said: 'Adam is the primal parent of our race'." (quoting 1909 First Presidency)
4/11/2008 10:43 PM

#6: Jeff G

Gary,

I completely agree with you. I wasn't trying to really defend one version of Mormonism over another. Rather, I was simply giving the science its full due. With you, I wonder how successful a reconciliation is if it compromises on both the science and the religion, assuming that is what Baron has actually done. Of course, compromise is exactly what Baron suggested that we should do in one of his previous posts. Perhaps you could take him up on this point, for it sounds like it would be an interesting conversation.
4/12/2008 12:39 PM

#7: The Baron

I'd be great if my blog was "a church blog," but it isn't. It's a private blog. It expresses private opinions. It makes no effort to express any official position or teaching of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, whose sponsorship or endorsement is neither sought nor implied.


Well, sure, this blog isn't 'official' either--a 'church blog' is just a blog that discusses LDS issues. The vast majority of 'church blogs' aren't official in this sense...I'm not sure I can think of one that would be expressing 'official positions or teachings' of the Church. Perhaps we need another term than 'church blog'.

Pres. Packer's words are authoritative and unambiguous in regards to Adam and Eve, sure. In regards to everything else living, though? The issue here is a much larger one (which is too broad to rehash on this thread) about whether any words that come out of the mouth of a prophet/apostle is "revealed truth", or sometimes can be educated and reasoned (yet still speculative) conclusions drawn from other revealed truths. I still find no conceptual reason why living things could not have been subject to death outside the garden and before the garden was created in order for the plan of salvation to continue. Why would that be a requirement to begin with? If the only evidence for this is that 'an apostle said so' without context or further explanation we're back to where we started: is that based on actual revealed truth, or just an educated guess based on other doctrines of the Fall? If the former, then we're back at the original question: how to explain the fact that science has no evidence for all living things not being subject to death before the time of Adam?

The difference in spirits is not from a 'matter' standpoint--presumably spiritual matter is the same regardless, to whatever extent animals (and plants, and rocks) have spirits. Yet, we know from gospel doctrine that HF's spirit children were organized in the pre-existence, present at a council to discuss the plan of salvation, accepted the plan (most of them...), came down to Earth to live a mortal life, then continue on to the spirit world, and eventually to final judgment and the three degrees of glory.

There's nothing in the gospel that implies that this path applies to animals as well, that some of the spirits present in the pre-mortal council are/were born into animal bodies, and that those 'animal spirits' need to repent, be baptized, and will inherit glory in the end according to their faith in Christ, etc... That just doesn't seem to apply at all, which implies that human spirits are just fundamentally different than animal spirits, and if so, then Adam being the first Man can be considered to mean he was the first living creature on the Earth to have an 'advanced' spirit instead of whatever every other living thing had. To what extent humans are different than animals depends entirely on this spiritual distinction; certainly from a biological standpoint there isn't that much difference (as scientific research into human origins has shown).

The science suggests that there never was any single "one father for everybody" figure in our ancestry. Once we abandon this idea of Adam being a biologically unique parent of all, its hard to see what uniqueness remains to be salvaged this our genetic material will be overwhelmingly non-Adamic.


Yes, that's a genuine question: all mankind having to be descendants of Noah after a universal flood (...if you accept the universal flood idea) presents the same problem. The 'half-breed' question is unanswerable, because there's no way of saying who has a spirit and who does not. The same question could apply today in regards to cloning: if I clone myself using advanced technology, does my clone have a 'spirit', subject to the same gospel laws as myself? Who knows? The point of this article was not to present anything conclusive, but rather to present a theory about how the Genesis account of Adam can have a linking point with current evolutionary theory--anyone is free to accept or reject the theory based on their own analysis of either side.

The same problem remains, though: if you believe you can't reconcile science and religion together in this case (or any case), and one must be wrong for the other to be correct, then how can you guarantee you're not preemptively shutting yourself off from new avenues of discovery, if in fact the side you chose doesn't have a complete explanation for everything, anyway? If science is the only truth, how to explain 'religion' as a whole, including prayer, visions, the Holy Ghost, and other evidence that there is truth behind it? If religion is the only truth, how to explain the evidence that science has presented about the Earth and life on it?

Whether this theory has anything to it or not, I maintain it is far too early to have to make conclusive decisions about accepting one side and one side only in lieu of the other.
4/14/2008 8:17 AM

#8: Stady Canton

"Adam and Eve ventured forth to multiply and replenish the earth as they had been commanded to do. The creation of their bodies in the image of God, as a separate creation, was crucial to the plan. Their subsequent Fall was essential if the condition of mortality was to exist and the plan to proceed."


Because the bolded words in Boyd K. Packer's statement emphasize that human bodies were totally separate from anything created up to that point, I think it reasonable to consider that life outside the Garden was separate from the inside (Adam & Eve).
4/15/2008 11:06 PM

#9: The Baron

That's an interesting phrase--good catch! The obvious question is 'separate from what?': from the creation of the Earth? The creation of all other life forms? The accounts in Genesis and Moses specifically mention Adam's creation before the garden of Eden was 'planted', suggesting that his creation was separate from the garden and he was later taken there.

The main point is: there's little to suggest that life outside the Garden *must* have been exactly the same as life inside the garden--otherwise, there was no real need to create the Garden in the first place...
4/16/2008 12:33 PM

#10: Lincoln Cannon

Perhaps the garden is a psychological state (or a relatively simple organization of spirit matter) from which we, both as individuals and communities, emerge into a knowledge of good and evil. From an experiential perspective, this seems to reflect well the scriptural teachings on the matter.
4/23/2008 2:00 PM

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