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At The Movies: Context vs. Content

By: The Baron

[Part 1 in a brief series of posts about movie content and ratings from an LDS perspective]

Question: Why are LDS Church members encouraged to keep fairly high standards when selecting movies to watch?

Answer: Because many movies contain profanity, sexual images or dialogue, and violence.

Question:  Okay, but why avoid profanity, sex or violence (PSV) in the first place?

That’s the real question: what’s the specific problem with “inappropriate” or “offensive” PSV material such that Church members would want to avoid it in the first place?

Is it because PSV material is:

(A)  Generally harmless, just a waste of time that could be spent watching something more morally uplifting instead.
-or-
(B)  Not harmless at all: repeated exposure to PSV material is actually harmful to our spirit and mind, with detrimental effects on our person.

It seems obvious that most objections to PSV material, especially at the R-rated level, implicitly assume (B)—that there is genuine psychological and spiritual harm in being exposed to ‘offensive’ material, not simply that it is just “not uplifting enough”.   In theory, this is because it encourages thoughts or habits that are not in line with gospel standards--creating images and patterns in our mind that do not promote (in fact, reduce) spirituality and which corrupt our ability to be in tune with the Spirit.

I deliberately use ‘in theory’ not because I don’t believe it’s true (I do), but because from a scientific standpoint the truthfulness of the argument is unprovable.  Given the millions of complex elements that comprise the human brain, and the millions of other environmental factors that get mixed together with genetics over time, no one can ever prove that, say, watching violent movies--or playing violent video games--leads directly to violent behavior.  (After all, maybe violent people are just inherently drawn to violent movies or video games in the first place…)  Still, there’s usually enough anecdotal evidence to make you wonder…

(Note the irony, though, of movie studios insisting that violent or sexual content in movies doesn’t influence human behavior, while spending millions of dollars on thirty-second advertisements for the purpose of…influencing human behavior.)

Attempting to prove or disprove the assumption of harm is beyond the scope of this post.  So, for the time being, let’s take this assumption at face value: that exposure to PSV is “harmful” to human spirituality in some (non-specific) way.

With this proposition in mind, let’s discuss the dual issue of context vs content in movies.

Content is the words and images contained within a particular movie: dialogue--which can be profane, vulgar and sexual--along with action, which can include violence, sexuality, nudity, and drug use.

Context is the environment in which those words and images occur—who is doing (or saying) it, where and when are they doing it, and why.  What is happening before or after those words and images occur, within the film.

There are many who will put one above the other: some say context is irrelevant, and some say content is irrelevant if it is within a ‘moral’ context.

In reality, both content and context matter—I don’t believe either one can be embraced or discarded in lieu of the other.

The Value of Context: 

Some years back, I had a conversation with a coworker about a movie he and his family had recently rented.

“It wasn’t really an appropriate movie,” he explained.  “It had a pregnant teenager in it.”

<pause>

I waited, expecting him to continue, but that was the end of his statement.

He may have been more sensitive to the issue, given he had teenager daughters himself, but it is worth asking:  Don’t we need more information than just *having* a pregnant teen in the movie?  What’s the ‘context’?

While I have not seen the movie in question (nope, not “Juno”—although that likely would have received the same comment), I do know that most movies with pregnant teenagers do not generally glorify teen pregnancy—in fact, it’s generally shown to be a huge burden and hardly something any average teenage girl should ‘aspire’ to.

If, presumably, the moral concern is the sexual activity that caused the pregnancy in the first place, then showing the consequences of risky sexual activity may actually prove to be a fundamentally moral lesson in the end: a discouragement of sexual behavior rather than an encouragement.  In this case, concerns about the content--in the sense of 'showing a pregnant teenager'--can be alleviated (or modified) based on the context of the event.  (Movies with casual sexual activity with NO risk of pregnancy or STDs may rank higher on the ‘problematic’ scale…)

Many movie depictions of drug use fall into this category as well.  A lot of movies show casual drug use, and the ‘highs’ it brings, but a great many of those movies also show the ‘lows’--the costs and the addictions--as well.  The context in which drug use is portrayed says a lot about how to judge drug use ‘content’ in terms of a moral plus or minus.  Many 'drug' movies are quite effective in encouraging people to stay away from drugs.

(Another example: One Christian-based web site which reports on inappropriate behavior in movies solemnly reported a while back that “Jurassic Park” contained “an adult male grabbing the rear-end of a young female”.  Don’t remember that part?  That’s where Dr. Grant grabs Lex—the young girl—and brings her up into the vent before the velociraptor jumps and tries to grab her.  If it didn’t occur to you at the time that you were witnessing a scene of ‘child molestation’, then, yes, context matters…)

The Value of Content:

However…context can’t always trump content.  Context, in fact, arguably only matters if the content itself is harmless.

Back to the original question: what's the "objection" to "objectionable" material?  Remember, the primary objection behind PSV material is not that it’s "not uplifting enough", but that, in theory, it is fundamentally damaging on a psychological and/or spiritual level.  If this sort of psychological influence—however small--from hearing vulgar or course language, or seeing naked and/or mutilated human bodies exists, then, presumably, we would expect that impact to exist independent of context.   And that presents circumstances where context is essentially meaningless.

Consider three sample movies:

#1 Contains 200 instances of the F-word.
#2 Contains 200 instances of someone’s head getting chopped off with a sword.
#3 Contains 200 instances of total male or female nudity

Suppose in the first case, each and every time profanity is spoken, another character comes up, slaps the speaker across the face, and says, “Don’t say that…”  You could argue in context that presents a message that profanity is improper, but in the end, exposure to 200 F-words followed by 200 slaps is still exposure to 200 F-words.  If hearing profanity has some sort of negative impact, that impact logically would still apply.

Suppose at the end of movie #2, the (surviving) characters discover that peace is better than war and violence doesn’t actually solve problems.  Violent movies can have anti-violence messages—a great many do, in fact—but that doesn’t change the fact that viewers just witnessed 200 human heads getting chopped off.  If witnessing human on human violence has some sort of psychological impact, then that also would still apply even followed by a ‘peace-good-war-bad’ ending.

(Ditto to constant exposure to naked bodies in movie #3—even if the movie ends with some kind of a message about modesty and that liberal sexuality is “bad”…)

Context only matters if the content is harmless. *IF* (and this is the assumption) seeing violent or sexual images, or hearing profanity has some kind of detrimental impact on the mind and spirit, then it would presumably still do so regardless of context.  And that means that “context” cannot be used on its own to defend many forms of “bad” content because the presumed problem with PSV material is completely independent of context in the first place. 

Movie reviewers such as Roger Ebert have often described R/NC-17 sex scenes in movies as being “graphic, but not pornographic”.  It seems clear that this distinction has to do with differences in context only: where the content is fundamentally the same, but one has a legitimate artistic place in the movie, while the other is just there for titillation.

However, this semantic distinction becomes meaningless if the content itself is not harmless—a sex scene that has a place in the story or has no purpose whatsoever, is still a sex scene.  If seeing naked bodies, especially involved in sexual acts, has discernable psychological effects on the mind—arousing sexual thoughts and responses in the viewer, for example--then that needs to be considered *before* analysis of the context can even begin.  If that psychological impact exists, context no longer matters.

Case Study:

This issue came to the fore among the LDS community with the release of Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ” in 2004—which set box-office records primarily by bringing people who wouldn’t normally see movies (let alone R-rated ones) into theaters.

A number of faithful Latter-Day Saints defended their choice to see the movie at the time, including BYU professor of religion Robert Millet (“It’s not Freddy Krueger, it’s Jesus Christ”), and author Orson Scott Card .  Note the inherent implication in their defenses, that the effects of the violence of the movie are essentially alleviated by the spiritual power of its message.  Basically, context trumps content.

Can you *do* that?  Do depictions of highly violent acts such as scourging and crucifixion against actor Jim Caviezel in a movie become less violent if his character bears the name of Jesus Christ (but would still apply if his character had a different name--say a remake of Spartacus?)  This seems to presume violence has no inherent psychological impact at all—and I don’t think that case has been made.  If true, doesn't that imply NO movie with only violent content can be dismissed as 'inappropriate', at least if it has a moral message somewhere inside?

(Note that Brother Card, somewhat counter-intuitively, shares an experience watching a porn movie when he was younger and explains how those images stayed in his mind for a long time, particularly in the temple.  His point: sexual material is the real reason we should avoid ‘bad’ movies, without providing any argument why violent images in movies wouldn’t stay in the mind in *exactly* the same way regardless of context…)

Without rehashing the “Passion” debate again four years after the fact, the question remains: what is the ‘objection’ with “objectionable” material in movies in the first place?   Is it just a waste of time, or is there genuine psychological and spiritual effects that cannot be realistically measured or controlled for?  If the latter, how does that affect judging the content of movies based on context?  Is the “V” in PSV fundamentally different than the other two, such that analysis of psychological effects doesn’t apply?  Can/Should we be more lenient towards violence in movies as compared to sexual content?  (Or perhaps the opposite?)  How do we balance judgments of content versus context?

Next: The good and the bad of the current US movie rating system

Print | posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:07 PM | Filed Under [ The Baron General Mormon Culture Family Theology ]

Comments:

#1: BrianJ

I was having this discussion with a friend just last night. I was telling him about two events in my family:

1) My young daughter was watching "Lamb of God" with a neighbor who, being Japanese, had never heard of Christ let alone crucifixion. My daughter watched this video all the time, but her friend broke down sobbing halfway through and continued sobbing as I took her home to her mother. How do you explain to a neighbor that you let her 6-yr-old watch a man get beaten, whipped, tortured, and then nailed to a beam?

2) As a family we watched the Joseph Smith video at the visitor's center in Kirtland, OH. The sweet, soft invitation from the sister missionary outside the theater stood in stark contrast to the violent depiction of Joseph being dragged from his bed in the night, Emma clutching their baby out of the crib and screaming in terror, and the mob beating and kicking Joseph, then tearing his clothes and covering him in boiling tar. The violence terrified one of my daughters (not the same as in #1).

All of this was discussed in relation to the avoidance, among Mormons, of watching "The Matrix" or "Saving Private Ryan."
7/9/2008 3:42 PM

#2: ed42

Shouldn't parts of the BIble (O.T.) be rated 'R'?
7/9/2008 8:41 PM

#3: Tom

Right, ed42. If we hold that reading the Bible in all its SV glory is appropriate then sometimes context does trump content, at least when it is in written form. So I would have to reject the notion that PSV is inherently harmful, independent of context.

Personally, the way I experience it, sexual content in movies is more spiritually harmful than profanity or violence. My mind doesn't dwell on violent images like it does on sexual ones and most profanity is just noise to me.

Of course, my own perceptions don't make a moral argument. I could just be insufficiently sensitive to the Spirit so that I don't notice the spiritual harm of profanity or violence. Or some might say that my sensitivity to sex scenes reflects immaturity. Who knows.

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One more part of the moral equation in choosing movies is the fact that when we watch a movie with PSV we cast a vote for more movies with PSV. Our individual influence is tiny, but we do contribute to a culture of violence in film when we watch violent films.
7/10/2008 7:57 AM

#4: Dennis

We've discussed this topic a couple times recently at the Thinking in a Marrow Bone blog (see here and here), and this issue has also been addressed several times on the Toward an LDS Cinema blog. I recommend that The Baron take a look at these links in preparation for his next post on the U.S. rating system.

I think this post brings up a lot of good points, and in general the commentary about content vs. context has some pragmatic value. I will say, though, that there is a problem with suggesting that content has an impact in its own right. I don't think that's true. The reality is that there is no content outside of context. There is ALWAYS a context. In regards to the three very extreme examples that are brought up, the "context" appears to be clearly inappropriate. A message at the end of a pornographic movie (pornography is bad) hardly constitutes an appropriate context. This is a mere detail tacked onto the end of the movie, not a context that the whole movie is situated in. I recall having a discussion along these lines about the movie Chicago. A friend of mine argued that the movie really teaches that all of the bad things in it (the sex and the violence) are bad. I countered that in reality the movie has a contradictory message. It really exists in a context that glorifies sex and violence (arguably, that's why many people see it in the first people, and the producers know this) and teaches this message to its viewers. Then, yes, there are things that happen that you could see the futility or the wrongness of those actions, but it serves as little more than a lip service to the content of the movie. (My opinion on this is based on seeing only a couple scenes from the movie, I must add -- but I'm pretty confident I'm right, and my friend ended up agreeing with me.) In short, context is far more than detail that is tacked on to a movie.

So, coming back to the 200 nudity scenes examples, if a movie that is worth watching (for me, anyway) really wanted to teach that pornography is bad, then it's not going to show 200 nudity scenes. But there might be something "graphic" here or there that is qualitatively different than it would be in another film. This can be said for sex or violence, I would argue. (I felt this way about some of the mildly graphic sex and violence scenes in Atonement, one of the few R rated movies I have seen in a long time, but I wouldn't push this on to others.) I think that this is definitely the case with the Passion -- the violence is qualitatively different than it would be in some gratuitously violent film. I don't think the main difference is that it is Jesus, because I think we could say the same things about a movie like Schindler's List. Now, that being said, I couldn't imagine letting little children see either movie, and I think there are several reasons for that. First, they are not mature enough to see the differences between one kind of sex and violence and another. Often this is because this requires real-life experience in the messy world to appreciate. Second, because of this immaturity (as well as the way kids soak things up), the images are more likely to have a lasting, negative influence on them. Third, children's immaturity in these matters means that they are not going to appreciate or enjoy the movie, anyway -- they'll see sound bites only, some of which will be disturbing.

I bring up the children example, though, to also demonstrate that what my child "sees" is different than what I "see" when watching a movie like Schindler's List. First of all, neither of us sees anything outside of context. The sensory data of the world is meaningful only in relational to non-sensory meanings that don't fall on our retina. We are not passive meat machines, we are active constructors. This is a major philosophical problem, from my perspective, about saying that "content" alone makes a difference. This problem supports the experiences of many people who will say that something like "exposure" to language, nudity, or violence makes a big difference in terms of whether we seek it out -- saying that they are not at all affected spiritually, for example, by those who occasionally curse at work because they are not seeking out this language. This is not to say that there is not SOME effect -- and for some it will be much more than others (e.g., the person who struggles with pornography addiction might have more trouble being unwillingly exposed to soft porn). This person would be wise to take into account his addiction, even for a movie that minor "graphic" scenes that have little or no effect at all to another person. Even here, however, it would not be correct to say that content is meaningful outside of context -- it is simply to say that, for this person, a particular kind of content is detrimental in all contexts. There is a difference, because certainly context still matters in terms of HOW detrimental it is.
7/11/2008 2:47 AM

#5: Stady Canton

Once upon a time, about a year after my baptism, I threw myself into weeding my media. I had "un-desensitized" myself to the point that I turned away shuddering at contextually comedic violence (I recall not being able to stay in the house while a friend watched 'The Mask' ). My recoil rate is significantly lower now.

In the A & B category, Sheri Dew once said that we could no longer afford to spend/waste our time on anything that didn't bring us closer to Christ. I think we have different ideas about the role(s) of media in our lives.
7/12/2008 7:54 AM

#6: The Baron

Thanks for the links, Dennis--that's a good discussion and good to link in to this one.

Just one comment: In one of those linked posts Trevor lists "The Thin Red Line" as an example of an R-rated movie that's R for 'theme' and 'complexity', and not for traditional "R-rated" content.

I haven't seen the movie myself, but we should note that the Kids-In-Mind site discussed in the second post of this series has "Thin Red Line" as a "9" for violent content out of ten--the same violence level as "Saving Private Ryan", "Apocalypto", and "300", so someone, at least disagrees that the R-rating for "Thin Red Line" is only for "mature philosophical themes"...

I have yet to hear of a real R-rated movie that doesn't actually include any R-rated PSV content as currently defined...
7/12/2008 5:00 PM

#7: Nemesis

I think that when the assumption is that all content has an impact regardless of context (and it's probably a pretty good assumption, given advertisement efficacy) then the content of most movies and even TV media content is not moving you closer to Christ.

Each person may think they have their filters but I can't imagine but what they're slightly fooling themselves.

You make good points, and support some discussion areas that exist in my own family.
7/13/2008 6:30 AM

#8: Trevor

I happened upon this discussion from the links (thanks Dennis).

Since what I would write here has been covered in other posts that are linked to here, I'll just say this in response to #6: There is NO rubric I know of that would place The Thin Red Line anywhere close to Saving Private Ryan in terms of violence. You don't need to see the film (though I consider it essential viewing for any framing of American film history or war film history, or for anyone interested in western existential philosophy, literature or art), but as someone who has studied the film, I seriously take issue with that "9" for violence. It is COMPLETELY absurd.

That being said, I do highly endorse the philosophy and intent behind 'Kids in Mind.' I can't praise it enough. Though I come from an artistic background, I find the idea of hiding content to be rooted in evil and deceit. Yet, as is illustrated by the present example, their execution is sometimes less than desirable.

In response to #7
I think that when the assumption is that all content has an impact regardless of context (and it's probably a pretty good assumption, given advertisement efficacy) then the content of most movies and even TV media content is not moving you closer to Christ.

I heartily agree that content has deeper effects than we can imagine, but packaging and viewer preparation are definitely major issues. Advertising is designed specially to affect. The kinds of shots, the length of shots, when the words come in and where on the screen the logo is placed. How loud it is and when. You may not be able to imagine how many millions of dollars a year go into this kind of detailed research. Everything is thought out. Even when in the program the commercials come. So using that as backup for why content regardless of packaging style has an impact doesn't really support the point. It's for this reason that I gave up television and commercial radio more than 10 years ago. I consider the media (plural of medium) corrupt. Mister Rogers' Neighborhood is the ONLY example I've found to suggest anything to the contrary. I obviously disagree with you as far as movies go. But then again, we're probably both looking at very different movie spheres.

Each person may think they have their filters but I can't imagine but what they're slightly fooling themselves.


If I understand what you meant by that correctly, I think you're right. I know I have encountered content that I believed I was strong enough not to be affected by, only to find later that I was kidding myself. I think we all (you, Nemesis, are presumably excluded) do the same thing but not just in reference to media.

But your comment seems to take as an assumption that all content will affect all people equally at all points in their lives. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Things I would be far more sensitive to, say, three years ago are things that don't affect me as deeply now. Likewise, things that I might not even have noticed three years ago may leave deep wounds on me now. Thank goodness we belong to a church that encourages, even demands, weekly retrospection as well as constant conversation with the Lord. Not to mention honesty towards ourselves, God, and others. If we are "fooling ourselves," luckily such problems will and can be quickly fixed if we're doing all that we're supposed to be doing. Needless to say, we differ in opinion , but I don't think we should necessarily search out new "filters" either.
7/13/2008 1:35 PM

#9: Nemesis

#8 Trevor, you make some good points. As far as our filters, I was thinking that some folks said some types of violence (for instance) did not have much of an impact upon them due to their desensitization. However, I believe that it still has an impact, just not one that they are able to recognize at the moment, which is part of what you mentioned.

I would not exclude myself from the impact of various types of media, I am as vulnerable as anyone, and maybe even moreso simply because I try to fool myself into thinking I'm more savvy than most.

I appreciate your comment about the millions of dollars that go into advertising details, and I would counter that there is a great amount of that social psychology that goes into many movies, too. Folks aren't just looking to tell a story, they are looking to capture your imagination and ensnare you into seeing the world from their viewpoint.
7/14/2008 3:29 PM

#10: Nephi

This is the problem, there are no exact rules to anything, and everyone is different. I have watched a movie with many f-words and it offends me, but my wife did not even notice such vain, repetitive language. Then in another movie the opposite happens and the f words do not bother me, but they do to her.

For a further example I find a film like Shrek (PG) more annoying and offensive than a rated R film like Amilie. (Which contains nudity and one background full of dildo-like objects, and yet it is one of the most spiritual movies I have ever seen.)

If someone uses a term like "never watch films that do not draw you closer to Christ" I think they make a very interesting comment that can be used with a very blind eye.

This is not bad council but I can easily push it further. Sports are full of as much evil as R rated films...if not more. They all play on Sunday, (Breaking 'The Big Ten Rule' here!) the players lead typically indecent lives and carry bad language onto the field which is often times heard, or at least understood visually upon the field. People get physically hurt, and sadly even killed. It mimics war, and often times raises aggression in players and the fans watching. Fans get killed often in Soccer in Europe and South America, fighting is promoted in Hockey, yelling to authority and 'charging the mound' in baseball (as well as chewing tobacoo), and a little bit of everything is in football. I do not feel like yelling and cursing when watching a rated R film...but I do while playing Church Basketball. Drunken husbands beat their wives when there team loses, and many sports promote scantily clad cheerleaders. Then there are commercials which often times promoting alcohol, or Nascar with tobacco, or viagra like drugs on the hood of the highlighted cars.

I understand people enjoy sports, but none of it draws you closer to Christ, and much of it borders on simple evil.

This is exactly why the Lord does not institute specific rules for entertainment. Entertainment should not take up the greater portion of our lives. Work, meditation, and positive interaction with other humans should make up the majority of our lives.
7/31/2008 5:57 PM

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